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Post by Hab and Cheese on Jun 7, 2012 16:19:13 GMT -5
Who do you think MB will draft at #3, or will he trade down or up?
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Post by FranklyaHabFan on Jun 10, 2012 17:54:31 GMT -5
be great if he traded up, but is Yakupov worth our first this year and next? I might worry that the Leafs will try to trade up but who or what does Burke have to trade? So I figure we'll stay at 3. and wind up with BPA -- whoever that is, depending on who Timmins ranks high.
Saw Cici play and if we were lower I'd grab him -- he's got some good leadership ability. But he's solid in the middle so gone.
And will Subban be available at 33? I wouldn't take him at 3, but would trade up to get him?
Questions, questions.
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Post by FranklyaHabFan on Jun 10, 2012 17:55:55 GMT -5
I just want to make sure we get a better player than the Leafs do [ya, everything is "how do we do against Toronto].
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Post by Hab and Cheese on Jun 10, 2012 20:11:45 GMT -5
be great if he traded up, but is Yakupov worth our first this year and next? I might worry that the Leafs will try to trade up but who or what does Burke have to trade? So I figure we'll stay at 3. and wind up with BPA -- whoever that is, depending on who Timmins ranks high. Saw Cici play and if we were lower I'd grab him -- he's got some good leadership ability. But he's solid in the middle so gone. And will Subban be available at 33? I wouldn't take him at 3, but would trade up to get him? Questions, questions. I'd love for us to grab Subban at 33, but I'm expecting him to be gone in the top 15, apparently his physical abilities at the combine were better than the players that are paid to skate, shoot, hit and score. Amazing, wonder what kind of player he would have been out of the net? I think I also read that he didn't start playing till he was 12. |
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Post by Hab and Cheese on Jun 11, 2012 0:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by FranklyaHabFan on Jun 11, 2012 8:02:19 GMT -5
be great if he traded up, but is Yakupov worth our first this year and next? I might worry that the Leafs will try to trade up but who or what does Burke have to trade? So I figure we'll stay at 3. and wind up with BPA -- whoever that is, depending on who Timmins ranks high. Saw Cici play and if we were lower I'd grab him -- he's got some good leadership ability. But he's solid in the middle so gone. And will Subban be available at 33? I wouldn't take him at 3, but would trade up to get him? Questions, questions. I'd love for us to grab Subban at 33, but I'm expecting him to be gone in the top 15, apparently his physical abilities at the combine were better than the players that are paid to skate, shoot, hit and score. Amazing, wonder what kind of player he would have been out of the net? Top 15 means [likely] Minny - 7 TBay - 10 Calgary - 14 Not so sure he'll go that high, though TBay also has a pick at 19 -- I see that, or NJ as Marty is wearing out. |
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Post by rainycityhabsfan on Jun 11, 2012 23:04:28 GMT -5
I'm kinda thinking Grigorenko, a big center with great skills that will hopefully be more inspired than Kovalev was. I've read all the stories about him not playing hard and floating or only playing when he felt like it, but I just think we need a big center with skills and this guy fits the bill.
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Post by Hab and Cheese on Jun 12, 2012 15:06:39 GMT -5
I'm kinda thinking Grigorenko, a big center with great skills that will hopefully be more inspired than Kovalev was. I've read all the stories about him not playing hard and floating or only playing when he felt like it, but I just think we need a big center with skills and this guy fits the bill. No way man, you got Kovalev and the Kostitsyn's all rolled into one with this guy. I admit I haven't seen him player more than the prospects game, and at that game he was head and shoulders skill wise above the rest. I guess it comes down to does Timmins and co. BELIEVE that he is motivated to be great like a Malkin, Ovi or Kovalchuck or does he fall into the line of the Russians with great skill and little will, that list is very lengthy. I'll take Galchenyuk because he had a shot at unseating Yakupov as the #1 going into this season. I don't envy Timmins' position going into this draft, but my faith is as high as ever in his ability to evaluate and take the right player. Can't wait for next Friday!! |
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Post by rainycityhabsfan on Jun 21, 2012 0:26:00 GMT -5
Well we'll see, you could be right with Galchenyuk, only 2 days and we'll know for sure!!
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Post by Hab and Cheese on Jun 22, 2012 12:00:51 GMT -5
It seems like the consensus is Galchenyuk, but realistically media and fans have no idea what the Habs scouts and Timmins think of the players. I'm starting to think a guy like Teuvo Teravainen could be the one that Timmins covets. It's easy for fans and media to see a few games and a bunch of interviews and video clips. But after watching a player 30, 40, 50 times and comparing them and their upside to other guys of similar talent, it comes down to what Timmins and co. see as where they see the maximum potential of the player.
I've done some bantam scouting and have seen players like Milan Lucic, Brendan Gallagher, Evander Kane, Craig Cunningham, and a whole bunch of d-men up close with the Vancouver Giants and with someone like Lucic he didn't really show his upside until the second half of his draft year. Even though Brendan Gallagher had a ton of heart and work ethic, you had to question him being able to play against bigger players and men, but his low center of gravity and drive to succeed seems to have overcome his size.
Kudos to Timmins taking him anyway and now it looks like the steal of the 5th round. Of all the Giants I've seen play Evander Kane you could just see had all the tools to be a superstar in the NHL.
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Post by Hab and Cheese on Jun 22, 2012 18:11:24 GMT -5
Here we go, with the 1st pick the Edmonton Oilers draft Nail Yakupov.
No surprise there, now who does CBJ take?!
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